Comments on: Meta Tags: The Poor Man’s RDF? http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/ Buzz Andersen's Weblog Sat, 04 Nov 2006 01:10:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: l.m.orchard http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-3432 l.m.orchard Tue, 07 Feb 2006 20:46:13 +0000 http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-3432 In case you haven't seen it, further down the spiral of metadata enriched tags: http://geobloggers.blogspot.com/2006/01/advanced-tagging-and-tripletags.html In case you haven’t seen it, further down the spiral of metadata enriched tags:

http://geobloggers.blogspot.com/2006/01/advanced-tagging-and-tripletags.html

]]> By: The Real Adam 2.0 http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-606 The Real Adam 2.0 Wed, 10 Aug 2005 03:20:23 +0000 http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-606 <strong>Little bits of joy</strong> Ghost Train is a brilliant hack. It lets you visually “script” tests of web apps by clicking, pointing and dragging. That is to say, you can generate test scaffolding for your web app’s frontend by using the app. It then generates... Little bits of joy

Ghost Train is a brilliant hack. It lets you visually “script” tests of web apps by clicking, pointing and dragging. That is to say, you can generate test scaffolding for your web app’s frontend by using the app. It then generates…

]]> By: Rick Thomas http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-584 Rick Thomas Sun, 07 Aug 2005 18:41:07 +0000 http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-584 That's a good idea. I'd suggest going ahead and using an RDF engine. (I like Redland with Python bindings.) The del.icio.us feeds are RSS 1.0 so the del.icio.us/for/xyz feeds are already have the RDF for the post, link, description, author and date. You just need to add the triple for:xyz. As for "too esoteric" maybe "leading edge". The notion of pure tags is just not expressive enough. There's always a presumed triple something like isabout:python. "for:bob" is an ad hoc response to the need for more expressiveness. I wouldn't be too surprised if the developers generalized and allowed posting any triple in the feeds. The obstacle of course is how to encourage the use of standard predicates, which some would reject as being unfolksonomic. But as an option why not? (If you go for full RDF then Cocoalicious could serve as a specialized aggregator and produce RDF as well as being a client.) That’s a good idea. I’d suggest going ahead and using an RDF engine. (I like Redland with Python bindings.) The del.icio.us feeds are RSS 1.0 so the del.icio.us/for/xyz feeds are already have the RDF for the post, link, description, author and date. You just need to add the triple for:xyz.

As for “too esoteric” maybe “leading edge”. The notion of pure tags is just not expressive enough. There’s always a presumed triple something like isabout:python. “for:bob” is an ad hoc response to the need for more expressiveness. I wouldn’t be too surprised if the developers generalized and allowed posting any triple in the feeds. The obstacle of course is how to encourage the use of standard predicates, which some would reject as being unfolksonomic. But as an option why not?

(If you go for full RDF then Cocoalicious could serve as a specialized aggregator and produce RDF as well as being a client.)

]]> By: Vincent D Murphy http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-582 Vincent D Murphy Sun, 07 Aug 2005 09:07:05 +0000 http://weblog.scifihifi.com/2005/08/05/meta-tags-the-poor-mans-rdf/#comment-582 That is a fantastic idea. This also lends itself to an approach I have been thinking of for representing RDF data in Lisp cons cells. RDF uses a triple as its model, but Lisp uses a pair. The most obvious way to use a pair for an RDF triple is to use two of them, with one pointing to the other. When I examined all the combinations for mapping the triple to a pair of cons cells on paper, the one you identified from del.icio.us tags jumped out at me. I'm just amazed to see the connection with tags and RDF laid out, even though I thought it must be there somewhere. I think a regular tag is an RDF statement with a blank predicate; what do you think? But the idea of how to integrate this with Cocoalicious UI takes the biscuit. Go do it immediately! That is a fantastic idea.

This also lends itself to an approach I have been thinking of for representing RDF data in Lisp cons cells. RDF uses a triple as its model, but Lisp uses a pair. The most obvious way to use a pair for an RDF triple is to use two of them, with one pointing to the other. When I examined all the combinations for mapping the triple to a pair of cons cells on paper, the one you identified from del.icio.us tags jumped out at me.

I’m just amazed to see the connection with tags and RDF laid out, even though I thought it must be there somewhere. I think a regular tag is an RDF statement with a blank predicate; what do you think?

But the idea of how to integrate this with Cocoalicious UI takes the biscuit. Go do it immediately!

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